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100xOdds

Horseshoe Baltimore is an urban two-story casino, and the second largest casino in Maryland with a 122,000-square-foot gaming floor. The multimillion-dollar facility features video lottery terminals, table games, and a World Series of Poker room. I've been considering the hand I'm about to share - from a 1/3 game at Baltimore's Horseshoe. It was a sizable pot, and I always tend to evaluate those with greater scrutiny: I'm in the UTG+1 or 2 (can't remember) and limp A4hh ($1500) along with 3 others in position. It gets around to the BB ($500) who raises to $20.

I did play a fair amount of 25 cent single line at Horseshoe Baltimore late 2019

Folks from the capital region used to have drive three hours or take the train to Atlantic City to play poker. Now, there’s an emerging poker scene including more than 100 tables at Maryland Live!, Horseshoe Baltimore, and the MGM just outside of DC. I finally got a chance to play at the Horseshoe poker room in Baltimore, MD. The Horseshoe opened almost three years ago and this was my first poker session there. I played in a tournament two years ago but not in the poker room. The tournament was held in a big convention hall on the ground floor.

they nerfed the 9/6 JoB years ago.
didnt know they still had good vp.
what did you play at Horseshoe Baltimore?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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cmlotito
I was up about 2k after first 2 jackpots then had to go into my own pocket till I hit that. I have $1,100 left in my dumb ass full house bank. The entire time I was rooting for full houses. The first two times I got dealt 2 pair I whiffed on all 20 hands. I did get dealt a full house with a 2x multiplier so that knocked off $100 in 1 hand.
Going back this Tuesday. I will play my $105 free play first at triple play $1 DDB. Winnings will be added to the full house bank. Then I will play and stop when I either run out of money I bring with me for the day, deplete the full house bank to $0 or get ahead $500 or more. I'm ok with any outcome at this point. But, I will say the best outcome, barring another dealt royal, is for me to get dealt some full houses with big multipliers to end this journey I have been taking at National Harbor. I rather enjoyed not doing anything gambling related since March.
cmlotito

they nerfed the 9/6 JoB years ago.
didnt know they still had good vp.
what did you play at Horseshoe Baltimore?


I was playing 95 DDB 25 cent progressive on quads and royal. A negative game. But they were giving me tons of free bets and free play last 2 months of 2019 that I would occasionally throw $100 at this just to pass the time. Return % was not as good as 96 but not as bad as 95 due to progressives.
I even got my first and only jackpot there playing free play.
They deactivated the ability to play free play on almost all of their video poker....almost all. They left it available to play on 4 or 5 (i forget exact number) machines. When I started to go in November 2019 you could use free play on most of the video poker there. When I hit this it was down to just those few machines.
This was the best it ever got when I played there. The Royal Flush got up to $1,529.76
I could only muster 4 aces. But that got me ahead so I left. I had played for a few hours after having worked an 8 hour day and was tired. When I went back a couple days later it was hit.
DRich
I have had multiple dealt Royal Flushes but never on a multi-hand game. Sadly, I don't play much anymore so I will probably never get one.

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cmlotito

I have had multiple dealt Royal Flushes but never on a multi-hand game. Sadly, I don't play much anymore so I will probably never get one.


I got lucky not just because it was dealt but because I could have just as easily gotten it playing 5 play quarter last year or 10 play nickel (which I dabbled in.) That would have been far worse than not getting a multiplier on this one.Blogcmlotito
Thanks for this post from:
I went yesterday and lost.
Here is the breakdown:
Well over 1000 deals.
Over a 13% loss rate at 7/5 DSTP BP
Only one AAAA for $400 non multiplied
Several, I don't recall how many, but it wasn't a lot, non multiplied $200 sets of quad 2's, 3's, and 4's, NONE MULTIPLIED.
One 5x $125 quad for $625
Two 3 x $125 quads for $375
Three 2x $125 quad for $250
No jackpots. Best one hand payout was $840
I can't be upset even though it was a blood bath. I played for two trips on that $1,000 free play offer and still have enough of it to do some repairs around the house and get a small bathroom remodeled.
I doubt they will ever see this, but I would like to formally thank my host.
I'll be waiting for my next $1,000+ free play offer at National Harbor. If it never comes, I'm ok with that.
cmlotito
I finished out 2020 just collecting free play in November and December. I did not want to play any more as my agi was nearing a limit I did not want to exceed for tax purposes.
I suppose I should start a 2021 thread soon. It's been an interesting year so far.
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I finished out 2020 just collecting free play in November and December. I did not want to play any more as my agi was nearing a limit I did not want to exceed for tax purposes.
I suppose I should start a 2021 thread soon. It's been an interesting year so far.


what i dont understand when you - lets call it grinding - when you are grinding you sit at a machine and you assume it will 'cycle' through a period.
Is it possible to get the 'same' result, or do you assume that you will get a 'fair' 'runthrough' so to say where you know you are running through the entire period and it will hit each individual result that is possible by the machine?
cmlotito

what i dont understand when you - lets call it grinding - when you are grinding you sit at a machine and you assume it will 'cycle' through a period.
Is it possible to get the 'same' result, or do you assume that you will get a 'fair' 'runthrough' so to say where you know you are running through the entire period and it will hit each individual result that is possible by the machine?


Video poker is streaky. At times frustratingly so. Sometimes I will stay at the same machine until i win or lose. Other times I'll get up and move to another machine. I've done better and worse both ways so it doesn't really matter In my opinion.
As far as waiting for a cycle to complete I don't think I've ever had a specific hand like a royal flush be exactly x number of hands between getting them. If a royal comes once every 40,000 hands I might get two a 5 or 6 thousand hands apart or go 80,000 plus hands in between royals. Hence the streakiness.
100xOdds

I finished out 2020 just collecting free play in November and December. I did not want to play any more as my agi was nearing a limit I did not want to exceed for tax purposes.
I suppose I should start a 2021 thread soon. It's been an interesting year so far.

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so you're just playing the freeplay and not much additional gambling?
how much lower is the free play now?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
JackStraw8004
As far as this case goes I watched the news report online from CBS Baltimore. The police officer absolutely lied to the man. There is no ordinance against card counting, only using a device or a computer. He should have allowed himself to be arrested. His lawyer would be looking at a much larger settlement. It was false arrest and false imprisonment all the way.
JohnnyQ

Shame on Maryland Live!. It did $53.8 million, with all that winnings, so why did the casino backroom Justin, a losing skilled player? Now Justin takes legal action against Maryland Live, see below.
The case# is 02C14190223


Based on my extensive legal knowledge ( well at least on a quick check with Wikipedia ) I think he wants the Prosecutor's Office to do something about his detainment. The legal briefs mention 'MANDAMUS JUDICIAL REVIEW'. Wiki sez:
'A mandamus is normally issued when an officer or an authority by compulsion of statute is required to perform a duty and that duty, despite demand in writing, has not been performed'.
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ahiromu

Haven't visited Charles Town in a while...what are the limits these days?


I always find a $10 table available, even on weekends, including at least blackjack and craps.

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I may be misremembering things, but I think I've seen a $5 craps table on the weekdays.
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Sandybestdog
I live in between Maryland Live, the Horseshoe and Charlestown. I used to go to Live to play $10 blackjack during the week. You had to fight your way on to a table though. You would have thought with the Horseshoe opening you would have seen lower minimums and better offers but it seems just the opposite. They have gone to almost 50% CSM's but it doesnt seem to have detered gamblers.
First thing I noticed at the Horseshoe is how bright it is. It definitely doesn't have a dingy casino feel to it. It has $10 blackjack from shoes all day every day. During the week, you can easily play two spots if you want. During the week and Sunday's it has $5 3 card poker, Ultimate Texas Hold'em and 4 card poker. They have $5 automated roulette and craps. You'll never find any of that at Live. They used to have $2 then $5 video blackjack but that now is gone. It doesnt matter anyways, I'm convinced those machines are rigged. I'd like to get into video poker but all casino's around have terrible pay tables. They are all I would guess 95-97% payouts. I think I once saw an 8/6 jacks or better at Rocky Gap. There's really no reason to go anywhere else around.
Charlestown is a dump of a casino. It's always smoky there. That's not really enough to deter me but it's a contributing factor. The only thing better is that they have a drink machine. Might not sound like a big deal but I like that. The place is always busy though. I guess they still have a lot of Asian's going there from Northern Virginia. They do have a few other games like Spanish 21 and High Card Flush. The blackjack rules are absolutely terrible though. If you like roulette, this is the place to go because you only lose half your bet if a green comes up. I don't really understand the minimums. I went on a Saturday once and they still had a $10 blackjack table. Then I went during the week twice and they have $15 minimums. Last time, I wanted to play Texas Hold'em bonus but it was $10 so I played Heads Up Hold'em. When I lost all my money there, I was going to leave and the other table was back at $5. I dont really play for comps but last time I was there I checked and I had like 5 cents on there. What's even the point? At Live and the Horseshoe it seems to be about $1 an hour, which I think is fair. The best casino around is Delaware Park, but that is almost 2 hours from me. Well that's my review of things.
PartialInfo

They have $5 automated roulette and craps.


Pardon the ignorance, but what do you mean by automated craps? Is it a slot machine? Who is the manufacturer?
wudged

Pardon the ignorance, but what do you mean by automated craps? Is it a slot machine? Who is the manufacturer?


Do a web search for 'organic craps'
Sandybestdog

Pardon the ignorance, but what do you mean by automated craps? Is it a slot machine? Who is the manufacturer?


They are by Interblock. I don't know anything about craps so I can't tell you anything about it but it's a physical machine that rolls the dice, not a random number generator. The roulette is standard rules. I will say that I have noticed a certain pattern with the automated roulette machine but I haven't quite figured out how to capitalize on it. Also awhile ago they were having this promotion where if you earned 75 tier credits a day on slots, they would give you $10 in free slot play three days later. The desk said those games didn't qualify but they do. They give you two players cards there so sometimes I would put $100 in two different machines and play baccarat. One on banker, the other player. Last time I was there though, the baccarat and blackjack games were not there anymore. Just for fun sometimes I like to put $10 in a video poker machine, so I would use the free slot play for that. Not sure if that promo is still going on.
Sandybestdog
So Horseshoe recently removed a good chunk of their Interblock automated games and replaced them with more blackjack tables. I read that Horseshoe and Live recently were approved to remove some slots and replace them with table games. They said that customers wanted more tables with low minimums. I suspect that even though the automated roulette and blackjack seems like a legit alternative to the higher minimum table games, legally they were considered slots, therefore were taxed at the much higher rate. Just a guess though. Also downstairs a good chunk of the slots were removed and replaced with more blackjack tables. Sounds good, so what's the catch? Oh right, all of the blackjack tables downstairs (which encompasses all of the $10 tables) have replaced their hand dealt shoes with continuous shufflers. So I won't be playing much anymore. I don't even vary my bets with the count. That's not how blackjack is played. I told the dealer that the other day and she said they hate them and to complain to management. I held up my two red chips and said yea I'm real high roller here, they're gonna care about me!
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UTHfan
FWIW, I was walking around Md Live the other day and noticed that they seem to have removed and replaced the craps tables...more BJ tables. There used to 6 craps tables, right?

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vendman1

So Horseshoe recently removed a good chunk of their Interblock automated games and replaced them with more blackjack tables. I read that Horseshoe and Live recently were approved to remove some slots and replace them with table games. They said that customers wanted more tables with low minimums. I suspect that even though the automated roulette and blackjack seems like a legit alternative to the higher minimum table games, legally they were considered slots, therefore were taxed at the much higher rate. Just a guess though. Also downstairs a good chunk of the slots were removed and replaced with more blackjack tables. Sounds good, so what's the catch? Oh right, all of the blackjack tables downstairs (which encompasses all of the $10 tables) have replaced their hand dealt shoes with continuous shufflers. So I won't be playing much anymore. I don't even vary my bets with the count. That's not how blackjack is played. I told the dealer that the other day and she said they hate them and to complain to management. I held up my two red chips and said yea I'm real high roller here, they're gonna care about me!


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You are correct, that both MD Live and the Horseshoe, have, or are in the process of removing electronic games (i.e. slots) and replacing them with tables. Mostly because the state of MD taxes the winnings of the casino at around 1/2 as much for table game win as slots. Yes those Interblock electronic roulette, bj, craps are technically considered machines. For tax purposes anyway. So they are trying to boost table revenue. Last time I was at Horseshoe the $10 pit downstairs, was full in the middle of the afternoon on a Thursday. Never seen that before. Then I had a dealer tell me that they are going to roll out $5 bj during the week daytime. So we will see. And both MD Live and Horseshoe seem to all most exclusively use ASM on their low limit games.

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